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      Scott Letts commented  · 

      Similar to this: https://edu.uservoice.com/forums/289447-general/suggestions/14771766-create-individual-student-folders-in-files-tab

      All student assignment/work data should be stored in the Classroom Site rather than the student's personal OneDrive.

      I had a case last year where I lost several student's work because they deleted it from their OneDrive...

      I still can't recommend our teacher's use Classroom due to this.

      With the new sync client and online UX experiences, it makes much more sense for the data to be stored in the Classroom Site. Students can still sync their assignment folder, or access it directly from the OneDrive online interface, as well as from Classroom itself.
      https://blogs.office.com/2017/01/24/onedrive-brings-new-file-collaboration-and-management-features-to-the-enterprise/

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        Scott Letts commented  · 

        Is there any update on this?

        With the new OneDrive UX enhancements, the rationale of having 'student work stored in their onedrive' no longer holds weight.

        In a school context, all student work should be stored in the Classroom Site. Schools have data retention requirements and keeping the data in the student's OneDrive is not acceptable.

        Classroom should auto-provision every student with a folder in the Classroom Site. Students can still sync that folder with OneDrive, or access it via the OneDrive web interface.
        https://blogs.office.com/2017/01/24/onedrive-brings-new-file-collaboration-and-management-features-to-the-enterprise/

        Scott Letts commented  · 

        @Anonymous· August 25, 2016 00:33

        It's possible, but it takes 14 steps (340 steps per class of 25 students):

        1) Create a folder for your student (i.e. 'James')

        2) Click on the three dots next to the folder

        3) Click 'Share'

        4) Type the student name in the input box

        5) Select the student from the list

        6) Click 'Share'

        7) Click on the three dots next to the folder again

        8) Click 'Share' again

        9) Click 'Shared with'

        10) Click 'Advanced'

        11) Click the checkbox next to 'Class Name Visitors'

        12) Click 'Actions'

        13) Click 'Remove User Permission'

        14) Do it all again for every student.

        Scott Letts commented  · 

        So student's can store coursework?

        For example: I teach Year 10 Media. I would like my students to be able to store their Photoshop files, assets etc.

        Likewise if they are creating PowerPoints, or any file.

        This way teachers can have 'line of sight' in to student work and give feedback etc.

        Scott Letts commented  · 

        You can create student folders at the moment, however, it's ridiculously convoluted and time-consuming. Considering it's possible I am sure Microsoft will roll out a solution in the coming days.

        --- Creating individual folders for students
        1) Create a folder for your student (i.e. 'James')

        2) Click on the three dots next to the folder

        3) Click 'Share'

        4) Type the student name in the input box

        5) Select the student from the list

        6) Click 'Share'

        7) Click on the three dots next to the folder again

        8) Click 'Share' again

        9) Click 'Shared with'

        10) Click 'Advanced'

        11) Click the checkbox next to 'Class Name Visitors'

        12) Click 'Actions'

        13) Click 'Remove User Permission'

        14) Do it all again for every student.

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          5 comments  ·  Microsoft Classroom (Retired)  ·  Flag idea as inappropriate…  ·  Admin →
          Scott Letts commented  · 

          @Rohit

          ... scrap Yammer and integrate Teams ;)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqAtI6K7NY

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            Scott Letts commented  · 

            Microsoft has recently announced being able to download multiple files (folders?) in the SharePoint experience.

            Hopefully the following workflow is enabled which will allow for a teacher to easily download all student work from one or more assignments.

            1) When an assignment is created, a corresponding folder is created in the Classroom files tab

            2) Subfolders for each student are created with 'edit' access given to the student for their folder. The teacher has edit access to all folders. (i.e. Johnny can only edit/see his folder's contents, the teacher can see and markup Johnny's work as he works on it)

            3) When a student submits their work the folder is set to 'read only' for the student and continues to be 'edit' for the teacher (Johnny can no longer edit his work and the teacher still has rights to edit/markup/comment on the student work).

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              Scott Letts commented  · 

              Add your vote here:
              https://edu.uservoice.com/forums/289447-general/suggestions/13582548--lock-documents-after-assignment-has-been-graded

              One solution that could solve this, as well as solving the 'students can continue editing after submission bug' is:

              1) When an assignment is created, a corresponding folder is created in the Classroom files tab

              2) Subfolders for each student are created with 'edit' access given to the student for their folder. The teacher has edit access to all folders. (i.e. Johnny can only edit/see his folder's contents, the teacher can see and markup Johnny's work as he works on it)

              3) When a student submits their work the folder is set to 'read only' for the student and continues to be 'edit' for the teacher (Johnny can no longer edit his work and the teacher still has rights to edit/markup/comment on the student work).

              Scott Letts commented  · 

              One solution that could solve this, as well as solving the 'students can continue editing after submission bug' is:

              1) When an assignment is created, a corresponding folder is created in the Classroom files tab

              2) Subfolders for each student are created with 'edit' access given to the student for their folder. The teacher has edit access to all folders. (i.e. Johnny can only edit/see his folder's contents, the teacher can see and markup Johnny's work as he works on it)

              3) When a student submits their work the folder is set to 'read only' for the student and continues to be 'edit' for the teacher (Johnny can no longer edit his work and the teacher still has rights to edit/markup/comment on the student work).

              Scott Letts commented  · 

              What I would like to see is in the Files tab:

              Assignments folder
              -- Assignment Name
              ---- Student 1
              ---- Student 2
              ---- Student 3

              i.e.

              Assignments
              -- History Oral
              ---- James Graham
              ---- Daniel Gray

              That way the teacher can easily keep a record of the student's assignments from year to year (a requirement for many schools)

              At the moment the assignments feature can't be used for the majority of schools.

              Scott Letts commented  · 

              Yes - this is needed! At the moment a student can continually edit it.

              Either create the functionality that when they submit their assignment it is uploaded to the SharePoint/Groups files (preferred), or change the permissions in the OneDrive (messy?)

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                Scott Letts commented  · 

                One solution that could solve this, as well as solving the 'students can continue editing after submission bug' is:

                1) When an assignment is created, a corresponding folder is created in the Classroom files tab

                2) Subfolders for each student are created with 'edit' access given to the student for their folder. The teacher has edit access to all folders. (i.e. Johnny can only edit/see his folder's contents, the teacher can see and markup Johnny's work as he works on it)

                3) When a student submits their work the folder is set to 'read only' for the student and continues to be 'edit' for the teacher (Johnny can no longer edit his work and the teacher still has rights to edit/markup/comment on the student work).

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                  Scott Letts commented  · 

                  Great point. My OneDrive 'Shared with' is extremely cluttered.

                  One solution that could solve this, as well as solving the 'students can continue editing after submission bug' is:

                  1) When an assignment is created, a corresponding folder is created in the Classroom files tab

                  2) Subfolders for each student are created with 'edit' access given to the student for their folder. The teacher has edit access to all folders. (i.e. Johnny can only edit/see his folder's contents, the teacher can see and markup Johnny's work as he works on it)

                  3) When a student submits their work the folder is set to 'read only' for the student and continues to be 'edit' for the teacher (Johnny can no longer edit his work and the teacher still has rights to edit/markup/comment on the student work).

                  A side note: Microsoft has said that there will be a folder download option in SharePoint. This would allow for teachers to easily backup all student's work in one click.

                  Are there any downsides or challenges to this solution? It seems to tick all the boxes.

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                    Scott Letts commented  · 

                    It would be great if it was in the Classroom web interface.

                    There is definitely some UI considerations that need to change with Classroom. It would be great to work with some schools when designing the Classroom UI.

                    Scott Letts commented  · 

                    Hi,

                    PLC's don't seem to create a content library, collaboration space and staff notebooks.

                    The Staff Notebook Creator is great... but it creates notebooks in a personal onedrive? I'd prefer to create notebooks in SharePoint so our organisation does not lose the content when the lead teacher leaves.

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                        Scott Letts commented  · 

                        Parents should have the same view as students (at the moment we share student login details with parents, not ideal).

                        Parents should be able to:

                        OneNote:
                        - See their child's section
                        - See the Content Library
                        - See the Collaboration Space

                        Files:
                        - See their own child's folder in Files (see https://edu.uservoice.com/forums/289447-general/suggestions/14771766-create-individual-student-folders-in-files-tab)

                        Conversations:
                        - Tenant control if parents can see conversations

                        Assignments:
                        - Parents can see student assignments, including grades and feedback

                        Announcements:
                        - A checkbox that allows teachers to send a message to parents

                        Calendar
                        - Parents can view calendar

                        In summary, the functionality is on-par with the students however parents are 'read only' for 'their child only / all class' content.

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                          Scott Letts commented  · 

                          You can create group folders at the moment, however, it's ridiculously convoluted and time-consuming. Considering it's possible I am sure Microsoft will roll out a solution in the coming days.

                          --- Creating individual folders for students
                          1) Create a folder for your group (i.e. 'Team Blue')

                          2) Click on the three dots next to the folder

                          3) Click 'Share'

                          4) Type the student names in the input box

                          5) Select the student names from the list

                          6) Click 'Share'

                          7) Click on the three dots next to the folder again

                          8) Click 'Share' again

                          9) Click 'Shared with'

                          10) Click 'Advanced'

                          11) Click the checkbox next to 'Class Name Visitors'

                          12) Click 'Actions'

                          13) Click 'Remove User Permission'

                          14) Do it all again for every group

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                                Scott Letts commented  · 

                                Yes! We need this. @BGS_Colin hit the nail on the head for Heads of department to be able to view their department's classes.

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